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Annual subscription?

I received this question:

I’ve had some conflicting answers from friends that do your Latin on-line. The price for the year is $250, correct?

Here is my reply:

It used to be.  I charged $250 a year, per family, for every class I teach.  When it comes to affordability, there is nothing like it among online Latin classes.  No one else provides the service I provide at such affordable rates.  

The problem is, my site, ThinkOutsideTheBorder.com renews membership automatically.  This is designed to make the process easy for students and their families.  You do not have to go through the registration process every year.  

I was trying to make things easier on everyone.  

Instead, people started taking advantage of me.  They would sign up for one year, take the discount, and ask for a refund when the second automatic payment went through.   Unfortunately, the refund process on my end is time-consuming and difficult.  Often, the refund request would come with an abrupt, or rude email.  It is demoralizing.  I have grown weary of it.  I canceled the annual option.  I have left only the monthly option open.  I am sorry.  

You joined under the annual subscription just before I canceled that option.  You are good to go.  I have not yet canceled your subscription yet because I was waiting for your final decision.  Just let me know.  If you are ready to cancel, you can do it here: https://dwanethomas.com/updating-your-information/.  If you cancel, I will refund the annual payment.

Annual subscription option?

I have removed the annual subscription option.  

My site, ThinkOutsideTheBorder.com once renewed membership automatically.  This was designed to make the process easy for students and their families.  They do not have to go through the registration process every year.   

However, the refund process is actually very difficult and time-consuming for me.   When my site would annually renew, some people would inevitably ask for a refund.  

Even a small amount of people asking for a refund slows me down immensely.  The refund process is tedious.  

For this reason, I removed the annual subscription option and have only left the monthly subscription option.  This gives people the chance to try the program out for a few months and then quit if they are not happy.

Latin in three years?

I received this question:

I have a question regarding Henle 1.  My 13-year-old is taking Latin 1 through a Homeschool Community this year.   They are covering Units 1-5 this year and will be covering Units 6-14 next year.  However, I am anticipating a change in our homeschooling and he may not be continuing on in this community.  I have found your website and I am thinking I would like to sign him up for a class to continue his Latin with you in the fall, but am not sure how I will be able to do that since you cover all of Henle 1 in one year.  Have you run into this problem before?  And if so, do you have any suggestions for a solution?  Thanks in advance for your help.

Here is my reply:

Continue reading Latin in three years?

Some warnings.

You can join EVERY CLASS I teach with ONE simple subscription option.  That’s correct.  Subscribe once and you will have access to each and every class I teach.

Not only that, all subscriptions are FAMILY subscriptions.  Everyone in the family is welcome to enroll.

I will do the math for you.  If you subscribe for $25 a month, you are going to join all of my classes for $300 a year.  Double that if you want me to grade your work, which I will be doing personally.  I do not hire anyone to help me.  I sometimes spend as many as 6, or 7 hours a day grading.

Shop around.  Most online Latin courses cost $600 or more per student.   Got three kids?  Great.  You will be paying $1,800 this year for Latin.  $1,800 for a language you will likely never speak.  C’mon.  I know you have better things to do with your money.

I charge per family.  Got three kids?  You will be paying $300 this year for Latin.  Got seven kids?  $300.  Got 12 kids?  $300.  Got 19 kids and counting?  Hey, what are the Duggars doing on my site?  Don’t you have better things to do?

Most online Latin courses are on a six, or seven-year plan.  Please. Don’t spend seven years studying a language you will likely never speak.

I have an ambitious goal.  I want you to be able to read the New Testament in Latin in two years.  It can be done.  I have personally taught hundreds of students to read the New Testament within two years.

Warning, my classes are not easy.

For this reason, I strongly recommend that you finish Visual Latin before beginning one of my online classes.  Or, I recommend you learn Italian, Spanish, or French first.  Latin is a very difficult language to master.  Read that again.  I am not kidding.  Latin is a very difficult language to master.  
Visual Latin, Italian, Spanish, or French will pave the way.
One last warning.  I recommend that you do not join any of my online classes unless you are at least 13 years old.  I am afraid you are setting yourself up for frustration if you do not heed this warning.
 

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People just can’t believe it, I guess.

I get this question, or questions like this, every week:

I have two kids entering Challenge 1 this year in CC, and I am interested in your Henle 1 class. Would I need to pay 250.00 per child? Also, if I were to sign them up for the class where their work is graded, would it be 500.00 per child? Thanks for your time,

Here is my reply:

Good morning, Sarah!

In response to your question, no.  One price per family.  I have switched my site so that there is a family price, instead of an individual price for each student. I am tired of getting ripped off all the time for having a large family.   I decided to treat others the way I would like to be treated.  

I guess people just can’t believe that I’m serious.   This explains why the question keeps popping up.

I like helping people.  Unlike some other online programs, I don’t have a desire to squeeze families for every last dollar I can get from them.

I see myself as a helpful advisor, not a money extraction machine. I am likely leaving money on the table.  Maybe a lot of money.  That’s okay.  I can sleep well at night this way.

The breakdown

I received the following question:

If I sign up now does the class start in August? When do the charges start? Now or in August?

Here is my reply:

The monthly charge begins the day you join.   If you opt for the monthly option, you will be charged 12 times.   There is a bit of a discount if you pay annually.  

Either way, it’s a very good deal for you when you compare to other online Latin classes.

Here’s the breakdown:

If you sign up for the monthly option without grading, you will be charged $25 a month, or $300 a year.

If you sign up for the monthly option with grading, you will be charged $50 a month, or $600 a year.

If you sign up for the annual option without grading you will be charged $250 a year, which is about $21 a month.

If you sign up for the annual option without grading you will be charged $500 a year, which is about $42 a month.

Whether you sign up annually or monthly, either option is a tremendous saving compared to other online Latin classes.   Take a look at the following comparison:

I posted this last year.  You could pay a lot to learn Latin. 

Years to complete

Average Annual Price

Total Cost

Think Outside the Border

1 to 2

$300

$600

Classical Academic Press

5

$545

$2,725

Veritas Scholars Online

2

$620

$1,250

Carmeta Online Latin

5

$520

$2,600

Harvard Online Latin

2

$950

$1,800

Lone Pine Classical

2 – 3

$509

$1,528

Memoria Press

3 – 10

$500

$1,500 – $5,000

Classical Learning Resource Center

3

$600

$1,800

 Remember, I charge per family.  Not per student.   I also charge no registration fees, no paperwork fees, no application fees.

How long does the subscription last?

Monthly users have access to everything for one year.  Yearly subscribers are charged once annually.  However, if you only want to subscribe for one year, and if you want the annual discount, subscribe and contact me.  I will cancel annual recurring payments after payment for the first year is complete.